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		<title>Comment on Trip to IIIT-H, Home and back again by Pulkit</title>
		<link>http://ranjeeth.wordpress.com/2008/05/18/trip-to-iiit-h-home-and-back-again/#comment-2524</link>
		<dc:creator>Pulkit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another story highlighting the sorry state of Indian villages, esp. in terms of medical care and nutrition. I am glad to know some of you are contemplating technological solutions aimed at reversing it. I am in touch with some folks who are working with the government to effectively run an initiative called National Rural Health Mission. Like the NREGA (the National Rural Employment Guarantee Act, this one is also believed to of substantial benefit to the rural public. 

One of the key reasons behind this appalling health-care situation of our country is the public systems having been increasingly privatized. Health is supposed to be a human right, to be made equally available to the rich as well as poor (at least, when it comes to children). That's one of the major arenas the taxpayers' money should be directed to. But, today, health is up for sale, and we are made to feel happy about it under the disguise of globalization and the whole corporates-bringing-in-more-accountability crap. Here is a link to a world-wide movement working for health as a right - http://phm-india.org/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another story highlighting the sorry state of Indian villages, esp. in terms of medical care and nutrition. I am glad to know some of you are contemplating technological solutions aimed at reversing it. I am in touch with some folks who are working with the government to effectively run an initiative called National Rural Health Mission. Like the NREGA (the National Rural Employment Guarantee Act, this one is also believed to of substantial benefit to the rural public. </p>
<p>One of the key reasons behind this appalling health-care situation of our country is the public systems having been increasingly privatized. Health is supposed to be a human right, to be made equally available to the rich as well as poor (at least, when it comes to children). That&#8217;s one of the major arenas the taxpayers&#8217; money should be directed to. But, today, health is up for sale, and we are made to feel happy about it under the disguise of globalization and the whole corporates-bringing-in-more-accountability crap. Here is a link to a world-wide movement working for health as a right - <a href="http://phm-india.org/" rel="nofollow">http://phm-india.org/</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trip to IIIT-H, Home and back again by Eric</title>
		<link>http://ranjeeth.wordpress.com/2008/05/18/trip-to-iiit-h-home-and-back-again/#comment-2523</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Eric...&lt;/strong&gt;

That is very interesting....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Eric&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>That is very interesting&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The rough patches of life by Vardhman</title>
		<link>http://ranjeeth.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/the-rough-patches-of-life/#comment-2521</link>
		<dc:creator>Vardhman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 14:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear about you lossing a great childhood friend. Also reminds me of the quote from some movie which said never leave a chance to let someone know how much they mean to you, you get these chances very rarely (well movie name is "signs of love" a korean one IIRC)

The anonymous comment is very enlightening, given that research is still a kind of "new" thing for Indian students very often finding the real way to access how well things are going is difficult. 
I had a similar opinion that publications should be secondary and the work should be the primary goal for research but the general trend is that your research's value is only evaluated from your publications more or less. People get interested in your work once they see you have some top-notch publication. 

@Sukesh: I agree quite a bit with you on ur observations, but frankly being there and done that I assume 3/4 year in BTECH should probably be a right time to think about life's calling. If that doesn't happen one should  be sure about taking a year in Master's degree extra is as much a risk are not taking it. Because you are not even sure that Industry experience would be anything better. But yeah the confusion does exist and most of my colleagues had it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear about you lossing a great childhood friend. Also reminds me of the quote from some movie which said never leave a chance to let someone know how much they mean to you, you get these chances very rarely (well movie name is &#8220;signs of love&#8221; a korean one IIRC)</p>
<p>The anonymous comment is very enlightening, given that research is still a kind of &#8220;new&#8221; thing for Indian students very often finding the real way to access how well things are going is difficult.<br />
I had a similar opinion that publications should be secondary and the work should be the primary goal for research but the general trend is that your research&#8217;s value is only evaluated from your publications more or less. People get interested in your work once they see you have some top-notch publication. </p>
<p>@Sukesh: I agree quite a bit with you on ur observations, but frankly being there and done that I assume 3/4 year in BTECH should probably be a right time to think about life&#8217;s calling. If that doesn&#8217;t happen one should  be sure about taking a year in Master&#8217;s degree extra is as much a risk are not taking it. Because you are not even sure that Industry experience would be anything better. But yeah the confusion does exist and most of my colleagues had it too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The rough patches of life by Sukesh</title>
		<link>http://ranjeeth.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/the-rough-patches-of-life/#comment-2520</link>
		<dc:creator>Sukesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it is not increase in number of students, that issue is aggravating. The reason is lack of interested students. With MS being a mandatory for dual-degree students it is compulsion that makes them do research not interest. Now question may arise then why did they choose at all?? Simple, At that age a student doesn't have slightest idea what is he deciding.
The main issue is finding interest, rest is easy because interest is basic foundation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it is not increase in number of students, that issue is aggravating. The reason is lack of interested students. With MS being a mandatory for dual-degree students it is compulsion that makes them do research not interest. Now question may arise then why did they choose at all?? Simple, At that age a student doesn&#8217;t have slightest idea what is he deciding.<br />
The main issue is finding interest, rest is easy because interest is basic foundation</p>
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		<title>Comment on The rough patches of life by Kiran</title>
		<link>http://ranjeeth.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/the-rough-patches-of-life/#comment-2519</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when you feel the bruises in time in terms of people not able to share the comics and heartbeats of life any longer with you, fragility surfaces. It is only human to react how you felt,go easy..let go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when you feel the bruises in time in terms of people not able to share the comics and heartbeats of life any longer with you, fragility surfaces. It is only human to react how you felt,go easy..let go!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The rough patches of life by ranjeeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ranjeeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anonymous : 
               Many thanks for the time you have taken to give the above advice sir. 

This is one aspect which young researchers at IIIT-H must pay attention to (particularly those who have been around for a while, invested lot of time and effort but havent met their own expectations). May be a continuous monitoring/feedback mechanism which indicates ones progress towards the solution will help students avoid thinking that they have been wasting time on the particular problem. From my experience, I feel better advisor-student interaction is also a factor that can be improved here. With increasing number of graduate students, this has become a serious issue, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous :<br />
               Many thanks for the time you have taken to give the above advice sir. </p>
<p>This is one aspect which young researchers at IIIT-H must pay attention to (particularly those who have been around for a while, invested lot of time and effort but havent met their own expectations). May be a continuous monitoring/feedback mechanism which indicates ones progress towards the solution will help students avoid thinking that they have been wasting time on the particular problem. From my experience, I feel better advisor-student interaction is also a factor that can be improved here. With increasing number of graduate students, this has become a serious issue, I guess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The rough patches of life by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Measuring once's capabilities wrt to publishing in top conferences is the wrong thing to do. Many a times the top conferences have an agenda different from your research track, and finally it depends on the three reviewers who have to accept only about 2 or 3 papers out of about 18 papers they are reviewing. 

The only way to assess your research work is whether you can understand the problem, formulate it, solve it and show better results. It this understanding of issues that will make you a top-notch researcher, rather than few publications in top-notch conferences. 

Students publish in top-notch places hoping that it will give them admission in top-notch place. You should show substantial understanding of the problem you are addressing to convey that you can think beyond the box, and have a systematic way of addressing the problem. If this comes out in your SOP, and letters by recommender's, then you are through. 

If the motivation (for you, and your adviser) for doing research is to just publish in top-notch conference - then your goal is very difficult to meet it. If the goal is to solve a problem, come up with a nice approach, understand nuances of the problem and show it.This is possible and will make you lot tense in doing the work. If a good conference accepts this reasoning then you have a winner. 

So, one should get our motivation for doing research is right. Getting paper in top-notch conference should not be only aim, it can be in my life time I will get few there. But my aim is to enjoy doing research and solve problems, and people will appreciate the amount of understanding of a given area I have. 

One should really ask how many have been publishing in top-notch conferences, and how many have real good understanding of an area. And which do you value more! This should not mean you should not try publishing in top-notch place, but if it gets rejected that is fine, but you should check have I got better understanding of the problem I am addressing, and a reasonable solution.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Measuring once&#8217;s capabilities wrt to publishing in top conferences is the wrong thing to do. Many a times the top conferences have an agenda different from your research track, and finally it depends on the three reviewers who have to accept only about 2 or 3 papers out of about 18 papers they are reviewing. </p>
<p>The only way to assess your research work is whether you can understand the problem, formulate it, solve it and show better results. It this understanding of issues that will make you a top-notch researcher, rather than few publications in top-notch conferences. </p>
<p>Students publish in top-notch places hoping that it will give them admission in top-notch place. You should show substantial understanding of the problem you are addressing to convey that you can think beyond the box, and have a systematic way of addressing the problem. If this comes out in your SOP, and letters by recommender&#8217;s, then you are through. </p>
<p>If the motivation (for you, and your adviser) for doing research is to just publish in top-notch conference - then your goal is very difficult to meet it. If the goal is to solve a problem, come up with a nice approach, understand nuances of the problem and show it.This is possible and will make you lot tense in doing the work. If a good conference accepts this reasoning then you have a winner. </p>
<p>So, one should get our motivation for doing research is right. Getting paper in top-notch conference should not be only aim, it can be in my life time I will get few there. But my aim is to enjoy doing research and solve problems, and people will appreciate the amount of understanding of a given area I have. </p>
<p>One should really ask how many have been publishing in top-notch conferences, and how many have real good understanding of an area. And which do you value more! This should not mean you should not try publishing in top-notch place, but if it gets rejected that is fine, but you should check have I got better understanding of the problem I am addressing, and a reasonable solution.<br />
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		<title>Comment on Long break to blogging&#8230; by The rough patches of life &#171; Thoughts of an Outlier</title>
		<link>http://ranjeeth.wordpress.com/2008/03/28/long-break-to-blogging/#comment-2516</link>
		<dc:creator>The rough patches of life &#171; Thoughts of an Outlier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thoughts of an Outlier my life, interest, tech news, relationships etc.      &#171; Long break to&#160;blogging&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Long break to blogging&#8230; by ranjeeth</title>
		<link>http://ranjeeth.wordpress.com/2008/03/28/long-break-to-blogging/#comment-2515</link>
		<dc:creator>ranjeeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@pkj : 

Hey Dude!! long time. Yeah.. the WW series idea sounds good but thats tons of material to write. Besides, any account of that long story will surely have a bias owing to the very nature of my investigation and the order in which I am reading the material.

Regarding the apologies thing.. I never broke ties with you :P. Have you forgotten all the pizza parties!!.</description>
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<p>Hey Dude!! long time. Yeah.. the WW series idea sounds good but thats tons of material to write. Besides, any account of that long story will surely have a bias owing to the very nature of my investigation and the order in which I am reading the material.</p>
<p>Regarding the apologies thing.. I never broke ties with you :P. Have you forgotten all the pizza parties!!.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Long break to blogging&#8230; by pkj</title>
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		<dc:creator>pkj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, write a detailed and patiend post (maybe a series) on your fact finding on WW and centre it arnd Mein Kamf. This would give you a nive practise on your writing skill and will collect your thoughts. And i will get a summary of your fact finding for very less effort.

Don't apologise to me. I always knew that your were a jerk :P !

Overqualified. Come to IIIT! Long time no Age :((</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, write a detailed and patiend post (maybe a series) on your fact finding on WW and centre it arnd Mein Kamf. This would give you a nive practise on your writing skill and will collect your thoughts. And i will get a summary of your fact finding for very less effort.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t apologise to me. I always knew that your were a jerk <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> !</p>
<p>Overqualified. Come to IIIT! Long time no Age :((</p>
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